I am eagerly looking forward to seeing who in the boxing community is
more worthy than others.
It is a healthy, humbling experience -- the affirmation that you are
less than others.
I'm glad letterboxing is not like those self-esteem soccer groups
where all the children go home with a trophy just for playing and
being good sports.
I do hope that folks will take the time to recognize and accept their
caste and strive diligently for something better the next year.
In the mean time, here are some apologies for the unqualified boxers:
1. For those who've just begun this hobby, sorry, you have five years
to go before you become a blip on the sonar, but it's good to learn
your worth before come to enjoy the hobby too much. Let me spell it
out for you - You don't matter just now.
2. Sorry also to any of you who simply carve and plant for the
enjoyment of others - you need to attend gatherings and up that X
count!
3. Anyone limited in mobility or in "dry" counties - good luck
achieving the minimum required PFX - we'll review your stats in
another 10 years.
4. Any of you who've retreated to a more clandestine way of
letterboxing in order to prevent those boxes from being abused -- oh
well.
5. Anyone who boxes without counting - you should've been keeping
track and publicly bragging about your PFX.
6. If you can't carve worth a whistle (3 or below on Poison Ivy's
Letterbox Rating System), or perhaps a condition prevents you from
carving - well, shucks. Perhaps this hobby isn't for you.
7. If you've ever been the tiniest bit abrasive and offended even the
most thin-skinned - sorry - you're understandably off the list of
nominees.
8. Finally - my personal and sincere apology to anyone who reads this
and wonders that letterboxing is not worth the effort because of the
remarks of one. Letterboxing is NOT this Yahoo Group of yahoos. I
really enjoy this hobby. I enjoy the artistic side, the treasure
hunt, sometimes the hike, the creativity and some of the attempts at
creativity. I like the eagerness of (some) new letterboxers and
looking at their first stamps and improvement with time. I really
enjoy meeting folks on the trail, commiserating with like-minded
boxers and plotting mischievious fun. I applaud the effort that more
established or more willing boxers have put forth to create enjoyable
experiences. If the bulk of this note has given you pause to wonder
whether boxing is for you - please hit delete and go experience
boxing before you decide.
On the Red Carpet at the Oscars
6 messages in this thread |
Started on 2005-10-04
On the Red Carpet at the Oscars
From: Poison Ivy (poizniv@gmail.com) |
Date: 2005-10-04 14:39:03 UTC
Re: On the Red Carpet at the Oscars
From: cpascott (seh-letterbox@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-10-04 15:47:05 UTC
Oooh, I am SO hesitant to jump into this discussion. I've enjoyed the
relatively flame-free conversations that this board has had lately.
But here goes -- my attempt at being a diplomat.
The idea by Wanda and Pete -- that is, to highlight some of this
hobby's most noted individuals -- is a good one, IMHO. But perhaps,
as people like Poision Ivy point out, the approach is wrong.
I also post on some boards at the Motley Fool (www.fool.com). It's a
financial website that has a number of financial-related boards, but
also a fair number of social boards as well.
Each year, the Motely Fool awards its "Feste Award". This award is
bestowed annually on "one member of the community that best
exemplifies our mission of Learning Together" (based on the Motley
Fool's mission).
As the award is a community award, the Fool asks for nominations,
reviews them internally, and comes up with a list of 10 "finalists".
This list is then voted on by the community at large.
As The Motley Fool is a commercial site, the winner receives
recognition and some monetary gain (in the form of free subscriptions).
So, what if we here in the letterboxing community meet in the middle
and adopt a similar approach? Rather than having Wanda and Pete
arbitrarly determine who should win the "Oscar", let's consider
opening up the floor to recommendations for this Lifetime Achievement
Award ... we could collect nominations for a period of time and, as we
don't have an selection committee, send the nominations through two
rounds of voting ... one to narrow the list to the finalists, and one
to pick the actual receipient.
Might this approach be a reasonable compromise? Heck, maybe even
Poision Ivy will be nominated!
CPAScott
(attempting to keep the peace)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Poison Ivy" wrote:
> I am eagerly looking forward to seeing who in the boxing community is
> more worthy than others.
>
> It is a healthy, humbling experience -- the affirmation that you are
> less than others.
relatively flame-free conversations that this board has had lately.
But here goes -- my attempt at being a diplomat.
The idea by Wanda and Pete -- that is, to highlight some of this
hobby's most noted individuals -- is a good one, IMHO. But perhaps,
as people like Poision Ivy point out, the approach is wrong.
I also post on some boards at the Motley Fool (www.fool.com). It's a
financial website that has a number of financial-related boards, but
also a fair number of social boards as well.
Each year, the Motely Fool awards its "Feste Award". This award is
bestowed annually on "one member of the community that best
exemplifies our mission of Learning Together" (based on the Motley
Fool's mission).
As the award is a community award, the Fool asks for nominations,
reviews them internally, and comes up with a list of 10 "finalists".
This list is then voted on by the community at large.
As The Motley Fool is a commercial site, the winner receives
recognition and some monetary gain (in the form of free subscriptions).
So, what if we here in the letterboxing community meet in the middle
and adopt a similar approach? Rather than having Wanda and Pete
arbitrarly determine who should win the "Oscar", let's consider
opening up the floor to recommendations for this Lifetime Achievement
Award ... we could collect nominations for a period of time and, as we
don't have an selection committee, send the nominations through two
rounds of voting ... one to narrow the list to the finalists, and one
to pick the actual receipient.
Might this approach be a reasonable compromise? Heck, maybe even
Poision Ivy will be nominated!
CPAScott
(attempting to keep the peace)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Poison Ivy"
> I am eagerly looking forward to seeing who in the boxing community is
> more worthy than others.
>
> It is a healthy, humbling experience -- the affirmation that you are
> less than others.
Re: On the Red Carpet at the Oscars
From: Rick in Boca (rick_in_boca@bigfoot.com) |
Date: 2005-10-04 15:53:55 UTC
As William Bennett recently learned, reductio ad absurdum arguments
are seldom as obvious as a clear, articulate argument.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Poison Ivy"
wrote:
> I am eagerly looking forward to seeing who in the boxing community
is
> more worthy than others.
>
> It is a healthy, humbling experience -- the affirmation that you
are
> less than others.
>
> I'm glad letterboxing is not like those self-esteem soccer groups
> where all the children go home with a trophy just for playing and
> being good sports.
>
> I do hope that folks will take the time to recognize and accept
their
> caste and strive diligently for something better the next year.
>
> In the mean time, here are some apologies for the unqualified
boxers:
>
> 1. For those who've just begun this hobby, sorry, you have five
years
> to go before you become a blip on the sonar, but it's good to learn
> your worth before come to enjoy the hobby too much. Let me spell it
> out for you - You don't matter just now.
>
> 2. Sorry also to any of you who simply carve and plant for the
> enjoyment of others - you need to attend gatherings and up that X
> count!
>
> 3. Anyone limited in mobility or in "dry" counties - good luck
> achieving the minimum required PFX - we'll review your stats in
> another 10 years.
>
> 4. Any of you who've retreated to a more clandestine way of
> letterboxing in order to prevent those boxes from being abused --
oh
> well.
>
> 5. Anyone who boxes without counting - you should've been keeping
> track and publicly bragging about your PFX.
>
> 6. If you can't carve worth a whistle (3 or below on Poison Ivy's
> Letterbox Rating System), or perhaps a condition prevents you from
> carving - well, shucks. Perhaps this hobby isn't for you.
>
> 7. If you've ever been the tiniest bit abrasive and offended even
the
> most thin-skinned - sorry - you're understandably off the list of
> nominees.
>
> 8. Finally - my personal and sincere apology to anyone who reads
this
> and wonders that letterboxing is not worth the effort because of
the
> remarks of one. Letterboxing is NOT this Yahoo Group of yahoos. I
> really enjoy this hobby. I enjoy the artistic side, the treasure
> hunt, sometimes the hike, the creativity and some of the attempts
at
> creativity. I like the eagerness of (some) new letterboxers and
> looking at their first stamps and improvement with time. I really
> enjoy meeting folks on the trail, commiserating with like-minded
> boxers and plotting mischievious fun. I applaud the effort that
more
> established or more willing boxers have put forth to create
enjoyable
> experiences. If the bulk of this note has given you pause to wonder
> whether boxing is for you - please hit delete and go experience
> boxing before you decide.
are seldom as obvious as a clear, articulate argument.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Poison Ivy"
wrote:
> I am eagerly looking forward to seeing who in the boxing community
is
> more worthy than others.
>
> It is a healthy, humbling experience -- the affirmation that you
are
> less than others.
>
> I'm glad letterboxing is not like those self-esteem soccer groups
> where all the children go home with a trophy just for playing and
> being good sports.
>
> I do hope that folks will take the time to recognize and accept
their
> caste and strive diligently for something better the next year.
>
> In the mean time, here are some apologies for the unqualified
boxers:
>
> 1. For those who've just begun this hobby, sorry, you have five
years
> to go before you become a blip on the sonar, but it's good to learn
> your worth before come to enjoy the hobby too much. Let me spell it
> out for you - You don't matter just now.
>
> 2. Sorry also to any of you who simply carve and plant for the
> enjoyment of others - you need to attend gatherings and up that X
> count!
>
> 3. Anyone limited in mobility or in "dry" counties - good luck
> achieving the minimum required PFX - we'll review your stats in
> another 10 years.
>
> 4. Any of you who've retreated to a more clandestine way of
> letterboxing in order to prevent those boxes from being abused --
oh
> well.
>
> 5. Anyone who boxes without counting - you should've been keeping
> track and publicly bragging about your PFX.
>
> 6. If you can't carve worth a whistle (3 or below on Poison Ivy's
> Letterbox Rating System), or perhaps a condition prevents you from
> carving - well, shucks. Perhaps this hobby isn't for you.
>
> 7. If you've ever been the tiniest bit abrasive and offended even
the
> most thin-skinned - sorry - you're understandably off the list of
> nominees.
>
> 8. Finally - my personal and sincere apology to anyone who reads
this
> and wonders that letterboxing is not worth the effort because of
the
> remarks of one. Letterboxing is NOT this Yahoo Group of yahoos. I
> really enjoy this hobby. I enjoy the artistic side, the treasure
> hunt, sometimes the hike, the creativity and some of the attempts
at
> creativity. I like the eagerness of (some) new letterboxers and
> looking at their first stamps and improvement with time. I really
> enjoy meeting folks on the trail, commiserating with like-minded
> boxers and plotting mischievious fun. I applaud the effort that
more
> established or more willing boxers have put forth to create
enjoyable
> experiences. If the bulk of this note has given you pause to wonder
> whether boxing is for you - please hit delete and go experience
> boxing before you decide.
Re: [LbNA] On the Red Carpet at the Oscars
From: (mjpepe1@comcast.net) |
Date: 2005-10-04 17:00:44 UTC
I, too, hesitate to add my opinion to the fray - but here goes!
This is a hobby of enthusiasts; not the elite or crowned heads.
This is a pastime of friends and like-minded individuals; a community not a fiefdom.
This is ONE venture in which we are all equal; in a world of labels and kings and striving to be the best.
It's a diversion where we enjoy the hunt and the stamps and the wilds; not our F's
This is our idea of letterboxing.
Mark
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This is a hobby of enthusiasts; not the elite or crowned heads.
This is a pastime of friends and like-minded individuals; a community not a fiefdom.
This is ONE venture in which we are all equal; in a world of labels and kings and striving to be the best.
It's a diversion where we enjoy the hunt and the stamps and the wilds; not our F's
This is our idea of letterboxing.
Mark
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Re: On the Red Carpet at the Oscars
From: Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee Hedge (lady_prisspott@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-10-04 18:19:15 UTC
Oh, Dear me. Dearest Rick,
Would that you knew our dear Ivy as I do. Would that she were not
given to the reductio ad absurdum argument. Her Ladyship nearly
snapped her strand of perfectly matched Mikimoto's as she clutched
them upon reading your appraisal of Ivy rhetorical skills. While she
is not incapable of being clear and articulate she is perhaps the
Goddess, not queen, not empress, but omnipotent, ne plus ultra of the
art of reductio ad absurdum. Thank you indeed for a hearty laugh. Now,
if you'll excuse her Ladyship she must find her logbook so that
Bartleby can begin counting. Her Ladyship has never done this but
just to confirm, if someone accidentally touched her Ladyship's hand
bound Moroccan leather logbook at a crowded gather and left a smudge
of stray ink that still counts as an F, correct?
Would that you knew our dear Ivy as I do. Would that she were not
given to the reductio ad absurdum argument. Her Ladyship nearly
snapped her strand of perfectly matched Mikimoto's as she clutched
them upon reading your appraisal of Ivy rhetorical skills. While she
is not incapable of being clear and articulate she is perhaps the
Goddess, not queen, not empress, but omnipotent, ne plus ultra of the
art of reductio ad absurdum. Thank you indeed for a hearty laugh. Now,
if you'll excuse her Ladyship she must find her logbook so that
Bartleby can begin counting. Her Ladyship has never done this but
just to confirm, if someone accidentally touched her Ladyship's hand
bound Moroccan leather logbook at a crowded gather and left a smudge
of stray ink that still counts as an F, correct?
Re: [LbNA] On the Red Carpet at the Oscars
From: Donna Magner (donutz716@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2005-10-04 19:30:39 UTC-07:00
Just my 2 cents on the topic...contribution, not always finds, but helping others plant, help with events, an outreach to those who ask, enjoying every aspect of the game.
Enjoy!
donutz716
mjpepe1@comcast.net wrote:
I, too, hesitate to add my opinion to the fray - but here goes!
This is a hobby of enthusiasts; not the elite or crowned heads.
This is a pastime of friends and like-minded individuals; a community not a fiefdom.
This is ONE venture in which we are all equal; in a world of labels and kings and striving to be the best.
It's a diversion where we enjoy the hunt and the stamps and the wilds; not our F's
This is our idea of letterboxing.
Mark
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mjpepe1@comcast.net wrote:
I, too, hesitate to add my opinion to the fray - but here goes!
This is a hobby of enthusiasts; not the elite or crowned heads.
This is a pastime of friends and like-minded individuals; a community not a fiefdom.
This is ONE venture in which we are all equal; in a world of labels and kings and striving to be the best.
It's a diversion where we enjoy the hunt and the stamps and the wilds; not our F's
This is our idea of letterboxing.
Mark
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